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I'm Lila Rhee. And I'm Nick B. Listen, we're just two single girls from the city of roses discussing all things love, lust and perception. And roses are a symbol of all.
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Things beautiful about love.
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But as you know, love can get a little dirty. So we're here to talk about it. Dirty Roses podcast starts now. Hey, I'm Lila Ree.
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And I'm Charlisa Shadowbox.
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Now, as you can see, of course, we've been talking about all season long that our girl Nick B. Is out and for the season. But she is doing her fixing herself up and by the time that this airs, she going to be a brand new her. So we literally, literally, so we are loving her journey. So make sure you follow her and follow along with her journey, her health and wellness. Because we all about making sure we are good. Making sure we're taking care of ourselves and living our best lives for a lot longer than we planned. So we are here for that. But in the meantime, I got my girl co hosting, guest hosting with me and I can't sing, but it's okay. We are being joined today by the one and the only, the only. He is comedian. He's a podcast host, community advocate, businessman, father. Doing all the things friend. And he only got one letter to his name and I don't know why.
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Professional Leo. We forgot about that.
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Yeah, professional.
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I'm a professional. Everybody's a Leo.
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It's like coke in the South. Everything's a Coke.
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Everything's a Coke.
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Yeah.
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Everything is a code. He said we're. We're LEOs with AIM.
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Okay. Oh, because we had the arrows. Yeah. Well, we're gonna welcome here. Jortavius.
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I like it.
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Arendelle. We got the man to myth the legend himself, Mr. G. Wade. How are you doing, sir?
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I'm doing all right. Thank y' all for having me.
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Thank you for joining us.
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We are so excited for this one.
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Listen, because we was. We was like pondering who we gonna have on the picture. Charlisa was like, have you ever had ga way on there? I said, no, I have not had G.A. wade on my show yet. And so now we know it's just G because the A actually stands for something, but.
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Right.
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We're gonna call it whatever we want to call it.
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Yeah. Just a G. It's an origin to my name.
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And I tell y'. All, okay. I don't tell many people this.
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Okay?
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So now I'm gonna tell y'.
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All.
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Now y' all gonna be the first ones to ever like. But My name?
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No, I.
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For real. My dad's name was Gus Andre Wade. And he really wanted me to be named after her. Mom was like, I am not naming you Gus. I'm not gonna do that. There's no way I'm naming my son Gus.
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Wow. Okay.
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And my dad was like, well, we gotta do something. So they just named me G. So.
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That was a compromise.
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That was a compromise.
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Wow. So you're a junior? Kind of. Sort of.
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I'm the second. Ah. So instead of calling me a junior, I'm Giantre Wade ii.
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Is that still how that works? I don't feel like it works that way.
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That's crazy, because my dad.
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That's fast. I could be the fifth.
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No, my dad's the second. Even though he.
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You know what's crazy? If you have a daughter and you try to name her junior or the second or third, they won't put it on a birth certificate.
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Yeah, really? They won't.
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I have a friend who did it and they wouldn't put it on.
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So, like Chrisean's kid.
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Yeah, it won't be. They won't allow, like the junior or whatever. Okay, that's so crazy.
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But if you can name it however you want to, why not?
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I know, right?
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Right. I know.
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We have to ponder on that one.
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Yeah, exactly. Cause. Yeah.
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There's no free will. Okay, I wasn't even ready for this conversation, but I know we just learned something new today. We did.
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I'm also a teacher. I'm also a teacher.
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Listen, it makes sense. It makes sense. I was gonna say. Cause back in high school when I went to Grant, and one of the things that we learned, those real trivial facts that you just have no reason for knowing, is what does the S stand for in Ulysses S. Grant?
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Oh. What does it stand for?
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Nothing.
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What?
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His name is really Hubert Ulysses Grant. And he was running and didn't want to be called Hug, so he changed his name to Ulysses and picked a S and put. Yeah.
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Wow.
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So he didn't want his initials to be hugged.
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Okay, you know what? I. Because I do know a lot of people don't typically have like a middle name or anything like that. So maybe.
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Yeah, yeah. He sound like he was real self conscious to be a general.
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Right, right.
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You know what I mean? Like, I mean, I get it, my nigga, but. Yeah, bro, you going to war, you can't be that self conscious.
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That's true.
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He gotta have a little bit more or less fucks again, right? Like, take this hood, motherfucker.
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No, I'm just like, okay. Oh, my God. Okay, we gonna be serious again. Okay, that's gonna be.
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No, really.
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I know a whole comedian on here, and I really do want to know about that. Like, so how long have you been a comedian?
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I only been, like, jumping on stages for about the past six years.
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Okay. Okay. What made you get into that?
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I had a friend and I was working at a Providence at the hospital, and he was like, I'll be doing comedy sometimes. You should come to open mic with me. You funny. And I was like, all right, I'll go. I'll just watch. And then I went to go watch, and I wasn't planning on signing up, but I seen the people doing comedy up there. I was like, I'm funnier than these motherfuckers. Oh, shit. Yeah. And then so I signed up and I went up there and. And from there I just. I couldn't stop doing it.
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Wow.
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I could not stop doing it.
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Do you find it hard to be funny on purpose?
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Really?
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Nuh.
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So when people be like, say something funny, you can just do it.
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No, I just usually roll with the energy. Like, depending on what kind of energy they give me, when they say that, I just give it right back to them. And then we end up laughing. I'm one of the ones like, you know, it's like trying to do a comedy show at a dinner party. It doesn't work right. You need to set up a comedy show. I gotta have a stage audience, and you know what I'm saying? A mic. And it has to be control. But I tell people all the time, if you talk to me long enough, I guarantee you're gonna laugh.
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So 100. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. That's what I've always. I know if I need to get a laugh, I'm always gonna be able to go to you for a good laugh.
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Oh, yeah? Yeah.
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Even when you. Do you be trying. I don't know. Or do you be trying to be serious? Or maybe you just really.
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Because I can't believe sometimes I really.
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Be serious and people be laughing at me.
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Yeah. At this point, he done got me already. I'm not. I'm not believing he said. I'm just saying the way he was.
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Like, oh, I just be really. Because. And I really push my hairpiece because it's good, right? And I think everybody that's bald, you know, I think y' all should take a chance and then get your youth back. Feel what it's like to have hair again, like a hairline and, like, be Able to shake that. Like, you should do it. All the bald men out there do not be afraid to get a hairpiece. You know what I mean?
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I mean, Tory Lanez definitely did that and it'll change your life. Not everybody's meant to be bald. So I feel that not everybody can go to Turi. I agree with that.
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You know what I'm saying?
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But one thing about it, that if. If we are ending up having some grown time and your lace starts lifting. I'm not mature enough.
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What if he just snatch it off like right sexy like before you jump into bed.
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You know that's true.
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We'd be sliding the bonnets off his hair. Just sliding.
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Yeah, I could do something with that. I could do something with that.
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No, I'm gonna around and step on that and be pissed off and scared at the same time. Like.
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No. Do you know how much them come cost?
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No. How much do they cost?
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Hair units are not cheap.
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No, I get mine for free. Yeah, I got a couple little homies, they make them in the backyard. I got, you know what I mean?
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The 11 year old.
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Yeah, they grow them in the backyard. What?
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No, we make them in the backyard. I. When they go to school, I send them with scissors and they cut other kids hair and they power it all up.
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It is an accidental donation program, you.
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Know, and that's what we make the units out of.
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You know, the haircut from when they.
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Just sneak, you know, me, a couple snips off with other kids in class hair. We put it all together, we like match it up for like curl pattern and then we collect it over time and then we make the units. It's amazing. Anybody can have one.
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You gonna have every elder in this, in this city. Like, don't be putting that energy in you. I rebuke that to my scary movie producer. Right when the hair is possessed.
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Yes.
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Listen, that's gonna be scary movie.
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Like tales from the crib.
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Exactly. Oh, my. Aside from doing comedy, what is it that you do for your daytime living and your community work? Because you do a lot of stuff.
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Which is why we couldn't schedule because you was like, I'm doing this, I'm doing that.
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I gotta walk through.
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I do this, I do that.
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It'd be a whole bunch of stuff. But I'm. I mean, I got a lot of friends who do a lot of business and I always do my best to invest in them and with them. And so that's one thing that I do. Another thing I do is I'm a Engagement coordinator with a group called Cultivate Initiatives.
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And so I'm always outside. Just, you know, my job is really to bring the community to cultivate and cultivate to the community. We do a whole bunch of, like, we got a beautification team that goes around and cleans up a bunch of places. We go clean up camps that have been abandoned also. We'll go to, you know what I'm saying? Camps where people chilling and be like, hey, y' all got some stuff y' all wanted to throw away? Wow. They just, you know, I'm saying, gather they stuff and clean up around the area. Tossing the truck, you know, I'm gonna dump it off. We got shower trucks, three of them, one stationary at the hub, and then we got two more that we drive around, give people showers, and let them do their laundry.
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That's what's up.
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Yeah. And the Safe Westville is 75 people in a safe reserve on 122nd of Burnside.
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Oh, wow.
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Oh, wow. Do you find that, like, your. Your personality and. And how you navigate in comedy, does that kind of transition or translate into the work that you do and your ability to create relationships?
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Yeah, I've met a whole bunch of relationships through, like, in the social work realm, through comedy. Just going out doing shows and, you know, me speaking and talking about the things that I talk about. Sometimes I got so many jokes, and all my jokes come from, like, reality. It comes from my reality. So, you know, I tell a joke about something, I meet somebody afterwards. Oh, I do this, and, you know, I work with this group over here. I'm like, oh, we should actually link up in the daytime. You know, let's finish, you know what I'm saying? Getting drunk, and let's hit this leave real quick. But in the daytime, when we got our regular faces on, like, you know what I'm saying? We should actually talk about this.
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Yeah, yeah, let's get drunken and do some community stuff. Meet me outside.
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Different level of outreach.
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I love it. I love it. What has been the. The most difficult thing as far as breaking into comedy?
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It's always that who you know, and then traveling a lot, you know, I do. I got a lot going on here, so it's hard to. For me to travel as much as I want. I do get to travel, but it take a lot for me to get. For somebody to get me somewhere else, you know, and it's one of those things, but you have to be in those other places in order to. In order, you know, to widen your fan base. You gotta be on those stages.
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What's the. What's, like, the best place for comedy? Because I hear, like, a lot of people talk about Seattle.
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Seattle is dope. I love Seattle for comedy, but I really love Tacoma for comedy. More than Seattle.
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Not to Compton.
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Tacoma is a way better comedy hub than Seattle. They got the Nate Jacksons, and then you got. And then you got Tacoma Comedy Club. I'm from Seattle.
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Okay. I did not know you was from Tecompton. You know, we be beefing with y' all a little bit, but it's all right.
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Oh, you from Seattle. Seattle. Okay. Yeah. I don't know why. I think you all know where I'll be beefing. Cause Tacoma really is. It's the blackest space in the Northwest.
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Say it again.
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It's the blackest space in Pacific Northwest. It is, it is, it is.
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Yeah. There's certain areas. Yeah, it's a little different.
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No, it's dope. I mean, like, just for the whole community. Like, you come to Portland and it's white. Like, you know, we got our pockets.
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It is.
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But Tacoma really is.
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I try to explain to people, I'm like, Washington definitely has a lot more diversity, has a lot more of us than here. People always say that it's exactly the same, and it's not. Yeah, yeah. That's why, like, I tell people all the time, I didn't pay attention to being black and being how little of us were in the room until I moved to Oregon because it wasn't at the forefront. Like, you could move around a little bit different. You probably even feel a lot more comfortable whenever you're, like, up in Washington or, like.
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Oh, yeah, yeah. Shout out. My guy, Bo Blast. He do a lot of comedy up there, man. That's my guy. He part of the hub. We got a comedy fraternity. It's 10 of us from the Pacific Northwest. So. No, I mean, we were the. One of the founding members. I wanted to. Founding members. I didn't have to go through. No. You know what I mean? Yeah. We rock. We put each other on different stages all the time and just continue to move and grow together. So it's good.
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Imagine if y n had, like, some line names and, like, y' all be out here.
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Jack, brother. Oh, my.
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I think we should do that, actually. I'mma bring that up.
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You guys need some letterman jackets and all that.
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I don't know what. What kind we. We. We can't be Greek, though.
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No, we niggas.
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We going be. We going be Ethiopian or something.
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We gonna be you know what?
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We gonna be Zulu or something? I'm. What. I mean, right.
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I mean, I feel that that's fair.
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Everybody going to be fighting over Shaka and Mandinka.
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Right. Right.
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I cannot. That is what have you. As far as your community work outside of what you do with your. Your job and the work that you do with the. The. Like the showers and the cleanup and the. And the working with the. The population. I see that you do a lot of things with other community members. Like, you've got. The walks that you've been promoting with.
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With the wealthy group.
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Yeah, the wealthy group and all that. How much of your time do you devote to outside projects that are not related to, like, your regular day jobs or your. Your personal projects?
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I think it comes. I'm one of those people who we talk. I like. I love a team. Nobody can do anything by themselves. So the team does what the team is supposed to do. So everybody's doing what they're supposed to do. Then I don't. My time is. You know me. I don't have to throw in as much time, but I'm always one of those people who I'm gonna pick up where somebody else is lacking. So it just depends on the team that I'm with in any different venture that I'm. That I'm in at the time, you know, And I always want to let them know, too, like, because I'm an honest person, too. So, like, hey, no, you got to pick that up, man. I got to keep doing this for you, because you're not doing it. What you going through? Like, you know what I'm saying? At least tell me what. You talk to me about it. So now I don't feel like. You just feel like I need to do this thing that you signed up for. You know what I mean? And so it usually works if you got a good group. So not. Not as much as. Yeah. As you would think.
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How do you navigate that, though? Because unfortunately, I do think that. That there's a lot of, I guess, kind of mediocrity or a lot of. Sometimes a lackluster effort whenever it comes to a lot of things that we do, like, you know, our community, we're wonderful. We're having ideas, but sometimes the execution falls short. Like, how do you. Or how have you had to navigate that?
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Whenever that happens, I think just being honest with people, I'm not afraid to fight a. So, I mean, I'll tell you the truth. You know what I mean? Like, I don't. I'm not trying to fight you, but if me telling you the truth makes you want to fight me, so, well.
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We can get all these two.
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And so I did, I think by being honest and then also having people around you that can, that can take that honesty and don't always. And that level of accountability as like a cutter. You don't like me. No, I'm not saying I don't like you. I'm telling you you're not doing your job. And it should be.
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Yeah, and you can't argue with that.
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You can't argue with it.
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Yeah, right.
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But then also being that example too, like going hard, you know what I mean?
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Yeah. Because I do think it would be different if you didn't have that level of dedication or you weren't the example, you know, then it would be hard for you to call people on the fact that they're not doing. But what I do know about you is that you're stand up in everything that you do. So I think it probably makes it easier for you to go to people doing what you're supposed to be doing. Right?
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Yeah, we be working.
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You don't sleep. I don't sleep as much as you do, but I get my sleep when I sleep.
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That's like the most backhanded ass thing to say. Like I'm going to sleep as you do.
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I'll be all right.
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Oh, sleepy head.
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Ass.
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Sleepy head ass. You a real rest of us, nigga.
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Do you find, you find that it's easy to work with your like your friend group or is that, is it easy to work with folks that just happen to have the same interests as you?
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No, I like working with people who like a diverse group of people with different ideas, you know what I mean? Because if everybody is the same, it's gonna be bland and blank, you know what I'm saying?
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You gotta kind of get out your comfort zone too. I don't think it's easy to work with friends because a lot of times it's hard to put your foot in they ass whenever they're not doing what they supposed to do, you know?
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And friends get real complacent sometimes too. They like, they're, they're okay with like.
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Oh, that's the hom.
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Right, right, or oh, I know how she functions. So she goes, she gonna pick up the slack or whatever. So I see that. Do you find it hard to self care with all the stuff that you do, especially the kind of work that you do sometimes?
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No, no. Self care comes in a lot of different Ways I'm big on meditating. Like, I'm big on, like, you know, I mean, turning everything off.
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Stretching and like, just actually taking time to, like, not think. You know what I mean? Turning my brain completely off. And every time I feel myself focusing or thinking about something, I go back to just trying to breathe and follow my breath until I'm not thinking again.
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Was that a learned practice? I mean, like, how did you get into meditating? Because it's not normal, unfortunately, you know what I mean? For men to have that. To like, normalize that type of practice, especially in our community. I don't think that. I know it's a buzzword now. I think it's definitely growing in popularity. But as far as, like, how did you get into that avenue of, like, learning that that was a practice that served you?
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For me, it was. I've been a war. So for me, it was that. That aspect of it, you know what I mean? Trying to calm my head from different, you know what I'm saying different things or getting into different spaces. Because, like, you know, when you know, like, the difference between life and death in that way, you automatically realize that some shit ain't that deep. Right? But then on the other hand, it's like, I can make it that deep. You know what I mean? So in my head, it was more just. Just focusing up and. And trying not to lose my temper or lose my cool. I started to meditate and it was, yeah, like a learn practice. YouTube university. And then I seen, you know, therapist for a bit and it got weird. Tried to sell me drugs and I.
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Was like, wait, what?
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Huh?
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Okay, tell the story.
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No, for real.
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You go to the therapist office and we've been talking for a while, you know what I'm saying? Good thing. And then pulled out a prescription pad. Talking about something. It's just this. It's drug dealing.
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It's drug dealing. It is. It is legal drug dealing.
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You know the drugs I do. Just tell me how to do them better. I don't. I don't need. I don't need that, you know?
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Right, right.
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If her ain't working, should I go hybrid?
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Because, I mean, like, with the chemicals.
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Yeah, I might pop a thistle. What I gotta do here?
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No, look, I. I got the funniest blue dolphin story, but that's not for this episode.
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Blue dolphins need two cold.
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It might be. It might be crazy. You don't get to bring up.
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I had a very small window in that I was an experimenter because I have a lot of bass Heads in my family, so I never wanted to. I knew I wasn't meant to ever hit a line or do certain things.
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Right, right, right.
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But I definitely indulged in a blue dolphin one time. And it was the person who I was celebrating with. I'm sure he thought he was about to blow my back out. The fact that I sat crisscross applesauce and freestyle all night.
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Had his N. Yo. The first time I did this, I rapped too, for like 45 minutes straight. We was going to a graduation.
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I had a good 200, 2,000 bars.
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Like, that's wild. That's wild. I guess this make you rap, Mac Dre was.
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Yeah, I had bars.
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Yeah. Only did it twice a night.
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Yeah. No, that's when I knew I was not.
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That wasn't my.
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Yeah, yeah, but the visual is just.
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You was raised by crackheads too then, huh?
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No, I was raised around crackheads.
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I mean, they was around.
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Yeah, basically. I mean, I'm definitely a product of the 80s crack epidemic, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, my mom had us in church when my dad, you know what I'm saying, had another lifestyle. Do you know what I mean? And then my mom, unfortunately, she's the baby of 10, so other than her and I think one of my uncles, all of the rest of them succumb to crap or whatever, you know what I'm saying? And it basically been based as long as I can remember. So it's definitely. I saw enough examples to where, for one thing, our comedy is crazy because I feel like a lot of, like, your laughter and a lot of things you come from is like, trying to find the bright side of some of the shit we don't been to experience. But the other part of it is it let me know that I was like, not ever meant to experiment because it's in my DNA that I'm gonna like it. I very much was gonna be, you know what I'm saying, like a base head.
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3,000 bars, 100. Yeah, absolutely.
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That's the comedy equation, though.
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It is.
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It's tragedy plus time equals comedy.
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Right?
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You know?
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Yep.
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Yeah, I like that.
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I'm thinking, put that on the shirt. It's probably already on a shirt. Right.
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But it is the truth, because they do talk about, like, some of the funniest people have been through the most.
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That's facts.
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So do you. Do you agree with that?
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100.
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Yeah. Yeah. You gotta. In order to be funny, you really gotta be able to make light of Things other people might take serious.
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Right. And that's why I also think that black people are the funniest. Like low key. Because the way that we'll laugh about. Like for instance, we're like, remember whenever mom knocked you out and you fell down the stairs, like for some reason if another community heard that shit, they were like, you know what I mean? But we find a way to make it funny about some of the most horrific things that we've been through or.
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The way we explain people.
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That's true.
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You know, Michael. Michael, who you talking about?
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Musty Mike.
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You know, you see, you see, y' all come.
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If black people would describe people anyt type of way. We talk about how we got. Nick. We do have nicknames for us. Most of the people that we.
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Y' all got a group chat, huh?
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Absolutely. A couple of them.