Aug. 18, 2025

Reel Reactions

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DRPS6E9 Episode 9 | Reel Reactions | Dirty Roses Podcast

This week, hosts Leigh LaRie and Nik B. are reacting to real-time content, from social media clips to viral videos. They're tackling some of the internet's most debated topics, including gender roles, dating expectations, and the "three F's" of relationships. Grab a drink and get ready for some unfiltered, honest, and hilarious takes on all things love, lust, and perception.

Episode Highlights & Timestamps:

[00:00] Intro: Welcome to Dirty Roses Podcast

[00:54] The guy who thinks men shouldn't have to check in with their women

[13:42] The "Freak, Friend, and Forever" theory

[29:08] Can the freak and the forever be the same person?

[37:22]** The double standard in dating and the "talking stage"

[44:54] What is a "high-value man"?

[51:30] The guys we date and the nicknames we give them

[59:16] My undick-pic-able life

[01:02:18] Final thoughts and outro

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I'm Lila Rhee.

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And I'm Nick B.

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Listen, we're just two single girls from the city of roses discussing all things love, lust, and perception.

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And roses are a symbol of all things beautiful about love.

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But as you know, love can get a little dirty. So we're here to talk about it.

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Dirty Roses Podcast starts now.

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Hey, I'm Lila Ree.

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And I'm Nick B.

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And welcome to Dirty Roses Podcast. Guess what we're doing today.

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What are we doing today?

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Real reactions. When I say real, I mean R E, E L reactions.

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Okay.

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Okay. So we're going.

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It's gonna be real, re to real.

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Real rap. Raw. No. Yes. So it's gonna be. We've been talking about Hot Topics. We've done Hot Topics before, but this time we actually wanna do the reaction to the content on the show and then talk about it because some of this stuff is outrageous. And you've been gathering.

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I have, yes, I have. So every time I kinda see something, I send it to Lee. I'm like, girl, we need to discuss this. And so that's kind of where we're at today is we decided to discuss this for. For you guys so you can kind of really hear our in the moment thoughts. As if you don't already hear our in the moment thoughts. Because, like, we.

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Because we blurt stuff out randomly and that's just how we do chicken.

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Just like that.

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What the.

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Okay, so.

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Yeah, so.

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All right. So the first one that I'm going to play.

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Okay.

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Is. Is this guy's take on basically a woman's place. And so. Right. And. All right, well, I'm just gonna play it and then we can. How do I just hold it in.

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The middle, you know?

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Okay, well, I'm trying to figure how I can see it and how you can see it. And then. So my tits don't knock over the mic.

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She got the big titties, Titties, Got some big old titties.

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If I'm out, don't ask me where I'm at.

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Don't ask me who I'm with.

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Don't ask me what I'm doing. Are you the leader in this relationship? No, I'm the leader in this relationship.

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Wherever I'm at, who I'm with or what I'm doing is for me.

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Even if you're in a relationship? Yes. What if they do it to you? I am your leader. I need to know. I am here to protect and provide for you. The point that I'm making is it's.

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Expected on the woman's end.

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To tell the whereabouts, but it's not expected on a man's end. Guys, listen. It sounds so sneaky because you got past traumas, and you're trying to put that on me. And you're right. Don't put your insecurities.

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You're right.

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On me. So if that man is your protector and your provider, guess what? He is your law. There's no other law but him. Are you my protector? You're not my protector. So for me to get out of.

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Oh, my God. So basically, he was saying that as the man, he doesn't need to check in with his woman about his whereabouts or where he's at, where he's going, who he's with, but she needs. She needs to check in with him.

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What do you think about that?

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A I call complete cap. It's not even about being the protector or the leader. It's about a common courtesy of letting you know where I'm at. And it could be for safety measures. Like, not like in a child, mother, like, way, but, like, for instance, my kids. Like, like, if you're going somewhere, I don't need to know because I'm trying to dictate where you're going. I want to know in case something happens to you. So I know you know, I have an action plan. But as a common courtesy to my partner, I may not tell you every step of the way. Like, now we're going to third street, and now we're walking down thinking of whatever, right? Like, we're not going to hold the GPS system. You know what I'm saying? But there is, like, a overall thing where it's like, hey, I'm going to X, Y, and Z bar with my homegirls. I'll see you at certain time. You know, that's a common courtesy. That's being respectful. It's allowing the person to also plan their day and whatever they got going on around you. But.

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But he's saying that it's a requirement for you, the woman, to do that, but not for him.

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Yeah, and that part for me is like, I feel like it is a requirement for both parties to let people know where they're at. And the way that he said that was like. Cause he's our protector and so he should know, what the fuck are you gonna do if I'm all the way in fucking Tacoma at a fucking male strip show and something pops off? You gonna fucking drive for three hours to come save me?

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No, I feel like based on what I saw from his character, he wouldn't be the kind that would let you go to Tacoma to the strip club.

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I mean, example aside, he don't seem like he's gonna protect nobody anyways. He seems like you need the protection from him because he's a fucking toxic ass person.

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He strikes me as those men that want to be leaders, but they're not leading with care. They're like more of a dictatorship because.

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They don't know how to be leaders. I've said this before on social media where I said I don't want to be around people who want to be leaders. I said, leaders are naturally born. They fall into those positions naturally. Right. They have a certain characteristic, a certain quality about them, a demeanor. Everything that's about them just naturally makes you follow their lead because you feel safe to do so. Yeah, anybody who is screaming out, follow me, I'm your leader. I absolutely don't feel fucking safe to follow you. Like, I feel like you're gonna walk me off a goddamn cliff and they're gonna be like, that was my job. Like, I just don't.

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I think what rubbed me wrong with him was more or less his delivery. So I could, I could kind of understand some of the stuff he was saying. I don't agree that it should be always one sided. I do agree that the communication part of anybody saying what's going on absolutely is important in a relationship. I disagree that it's not a requirement for the man to do the same. However, he could have said it better because he was like, I am the law.

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Yeah, that's so you are.

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And I'm like, but who are you?

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Yeah, you're not the law.

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And then he wanted to turn it and make it about protection. Trauma.

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Oh, yeah. Like, don't throw my traumas at me. Because it sound like you have trauma about not knowing where your woman's at. Right, right. Like you a want to be a leader so bad that you probably felt like not a man in your last relationship and then now you want to scream, you're a man, you're a man, you're a man and I'm your leader. Follow me. I protect you and I'm law. So you've got traumas and I don't, so tell me where you're at. Like that sounds and screams. I've been hurt. I have traumas, I have triggers. And I feel futile in this relationship.

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Right.

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But I do agree, I think communication is important and I think both parties should be respectful enough to tell people where they're at, just in general. It's a mutual reciprocated communication tactic. All these big words, I think I'm smart or something.

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Trepidation.

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Trepidation.

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But at the same, yeah. And I feel, I would feel very much controlled in a relationship if a man told me I had to do something that he was not required to do. Like that just sounds control.

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Okay. So let's, let's kind of break that down because I hear a lot of men say this in so many ways and that it's about kind of the whole dominant and submissive. They want their woman to be soft, they want their woman to follow leadership. Now they may be delivering that message really harsh, but kind of going back to what this guy, I think was trying to say is maybe that that feels triggering because there are some women who have had to be in control, that losing that level of control feels unsafe because we've been doing it for so long. So where, no, I don't wanna say follow me and do exactly as I say blindly. However, you would probably follow your husband or spouse and do what they say blindly if you trusted them.

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Yeah, again, but the part that he lost me was the non reciprocal part of that. It was the part where it's I've got to respect you and you don't even have to respect me the least. That felt like you, it's controlling, it's manipulation because you're not respecting me. To share with me and be safe with me to know where you're at.

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Right.

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You know, like maybe I can't be your protector. Now there's to a point where I've heard men say, and I've watched other reels and things like that where they're like, it's a woman's job to be the visionary and to see things that the man doesn't see, but then to guide them and help them be the leader. Right. Like I have the give you the instruct, not the instructions, but I'm trying to give you the information that you need to lead. Right. So if you don't respect me to tell me anything, how can I even be your support system as my leader? You know what I'm saying? So like you. Yeah.

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I wouldn't be able to respect him. I'm not gonna lie. I, I, he was a no for me and maybe he's just not my person and that's why we haven't met and crossed paths in real life. He's a no for me.

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I have another clip though that I want to, Okay. I want to kind of dive into.

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Reciprocate, don't control and mutual respect. Got it. Relax, relate, release.

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Okay, so this one is a little shorter.

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Let's see, hold on. Categories. There's the freak, the friend, and the forever. Women get confused about which category they in. There's a lot of freaks who think they are forever, but the freak will never become the forever. And group women into three.

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All right.

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The freak, the friend, and the forever. And they can't be the same.

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Evidently not. So.

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Okay, I mean, okay, I hear what he's saying to a certain extent. Like we talked about things before of like men like certain women to play with. Like that's who they on their toys and and then those women tend to not be the same type of woman that they actually take home to mom. And then you talked about the difference between friend and partner, like relationship. Because you're like a friend is a person that you tell everything to. And sometimes your partner, you don't tell everything too. Like you share different informations and have a different true, true non sexual relationship. But so I see how those three things can be different. But I also think that you're forever could be all of the things.

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That's what I'm saying. Like I. And now this actually kind of goes back to a topic we had talking to some men who say that their best friend could never be their spouse, their woman. For women, we kind of want their best friend. We do. We hope that our husband is our best friend and is our freak. You know what I mean? So it's like we're looking for all three things from men. But according to him, his thoughts are men compartmentalize the three different brackets. You are either a friend, a freak, or forever.

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And I think you're right. Like as we talk to people, men have said similar things.

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But I don't understand what the forever person does if they're not your friend. And how does someone stay here forever if you aren't still freaking on them, loving on them, attracted to them in that way that doesn't feel old and retired.

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So it's weird that there's a few things that like so much is coming to my mind right now. One of the things is I've heard men say, for example, like giving head or get receiving head. Right?

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Yeah.

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They won't nut in their woman's mouth because they feel like it's disrespectful as you take a sip. Go ahead and take a sip, girl. Go ahead and put that in your mouth.

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Go ahead, slurpity slurp. Slurp.

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But they won't.

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That's so gross. Ew. I don't like to drink that. Nobody should like to drink comelicious.

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It depends on what your diet is.

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Ew. Listen, if you're out there, don't you do it. If you're out there swallowing kids for breakfast. Grass.

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Just make sure that if you're sending kids to, you know, the tunnel in your mouth, that it. At least you have a good diet.

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Just catch and spit. Ew. Ew. And then it gets all in your belly. Digest it.

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I mean, gross.

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And it's thick.

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I have no Ew.

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God, it doesn't taste good. I'm sorry, I'm having like a flashback.

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But you're also a texture person, aren't you? Like a food texture person?

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Yeah. And I don't like sauces.

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I don't like saucy.

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I don't like saucy stuff.

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Oh God, this makes me sound so.

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But she does. She likes extra whip on her whip.

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With an H. All I'm saying is if you have a good diet, it's not that bad. Anyways, my point is back to the.

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That this is why you can't be someone's forever. Cuz you over here being the freak.

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Listen, that's fine with me. I. I don't know if I want anybody's forever because I was a forever and it didn't last forever. I'm saying to my point is that there are men who will treat. There are men who will treat freaks differently than they'll treat the woman. Right? Like the. I'm saying this because some of that to say. God damn it. You won't let me finish a statement.

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I didn't interrupt that.

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You did cause talking about nutting in people's mouths and you're taking your sip and it was a whole thing. Men won't nut in their women's mouth. They don't like to finish in their woman's mouth because they feel like that's something that only women that they discard will do. They don't. They think it's disrespectful to their woman and they will do it to a woman that they don't care about and disregard her. Okay? And so to that all of that was saying that that's how they. You can be a freak. But there's certain boundaries that some men have with their woman that they won't have with someone that they don't care about. That was just an example. I'm not saying it's everybody, but how we were talking about the compartmentalize. I just think that I would like to be all three to my person. I would like to be. I would like. Because I feel like if I'm not your freak, then you're going to go somewhere else to get your freak off. Unless you have some kind of weird fetish that I don't like. Like something like, I'm afraid to say shit now because I feel like I'm a fucking judge.

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Just say it. Nobody's judging you.

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She's like, say it so I can judge you.

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No, I will not. I will not judge you. I will just say what I won't do.

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I'm just saying, like, me, a hard nose are booty holes. Like, I don't put nothing in my booty hole. Like, I just. I'm traumatized by one time trying it and it was not fun and I kicked the hell out of my partner. But, like, for me, it's a hard no. But for somebody, like, you know, ideally, like, whoever I'm with, we'll talk about that ahead of time. So we know what our heart stops are and we're good. But we had that on the sexual compatibility episode. We talked about, like, where there was a lady who said, you know, that the men that were going to seek out prostitutes were like, they had these weird fucking fetishes. Dirty feet lickers and getting drugs, all those things. I'm not doing none of that shit. So if that's what you consider freak, count me out.

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But I think that's more kink.

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You're right. That is facts.

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Yeah. So come on, break that fourth wall, Karen. Go ahead, fourth wall.

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I think this is. I think this is where most men come from. Okay. You love a freak, but you're afraid to find out if you're forever is a freak. Because you can't just become a freak out of nowhere.

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You've had to have practice.

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Practice.

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Yeah.

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Oh. Which means you got to visualize somebody else. And I think that's why a lot of men, especially a lot of men, you know, don't feel confident in who they are. They don't love that. They be like, where you learn that trick at? Is it him? Is it him?

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Which makes me then wonder, like, do men care that much about body count? I think. I mean, I mean, I'm sure people do care. I mean, I think women care too.

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But you don't want no Wilt Chamberlain.

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You don't. Right? It's like.

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But so I talked to somebody and they were like, if you don't have somewhat of a body count, then when you get to me, you don't know anything what you're doing. And don't nobody want that. At this old age of our ripeness, we don't want to be teaching nobody. I mean, we can teach some things like, you know, that's preferences, Right? But I don't want to teach you the basics or I don't want to teach you something. You know, like, I get it. You know, there's got to be a body count in some aspect for you to get to a certain level. But I hear what our producer is saying, that if you. You can flip, split it and twist it and bop it and all those other things, turn it, flip it, then every man that you come across, you're gonna be like, was he the one that bopped it? Was he the one that twisted it? Was he the one that flipped it? Because now I gotta visualize that. Yeah.

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Yeah, I guess so. But I mean, same thing goes for women.

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Yeah, yeah, I. I know that for a fact. I'll be like, I'm a visual thinker.

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So I'm like, what woman let you do it to her in the butt?

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Yeah.

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And that. You knew that you liked that?

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Yeah. I mean, yeah.

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Okay, well, I have another video. Okay. So the question really is, can the freak be the friend and the forever. I think the freak can be a friend, honestly. Like, I've seen friends with benefits or even just pimps and hoes. Sometimes they're buddies, you know, they're not always domestic and toxic. Sometimes there's good pimps like, hey, little ho, come on over here. I have a couple bucks for you today.

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You know, there are different names for pimps too.

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Oh, well, I quit.

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There's. There's gorilla pimp. Those are the ones that slap people.

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Gorilla pimp.

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There's. I think it's called a finesse pimp, where that's the nice one that kind of soft talks them and takes care of them. Okay, there was other ones. I forgot. I learned this from a sex trafficking class that I took. There's different types. There's literally names for the different types of.

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What kind would I be? I want to be one.

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You would definitely be a finesse.

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I was a madam in undergrad. So this is what had happened.

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What had happened was.

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What happened was you were trying to make some change. No, I was actually. I was trying to make some grades. I am an art major, and in my undergrad we had to do live drawing classes.

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Okay. This is very safe because I was like, girl, we done talked about schools in previous episodes, and your school gonna be calling you, like, do not represent us ever again.

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I'm not gonna say the name of my university, even though it's posted it.

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Back to an episode later.

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But I remember we had our live drawing classes. It was part of the curriculum that we did nude models. Okay. And all of our models were women.

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And you want to draw some dicks?

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Nope, it's not that I wanted to draw dicks. I wanted to ensure that I had passing grades in a particular class that conflicted with my work schedule at the time. And so I went to the professor at the time and I was like, yo, if I get you some girls, what's up with some A's? I mean, I'm paraphrasing, but that's absolutely how this conversation went. And he was, oh, God. If I imitate him, everybody will know who it is. So I'm not going to do his voice. But he was like, okay, Kiko. He called me Kiko.

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He's like, yeah. He's like, bring me to some girls. He's like, let's do it. So for two semesters straight, I had two different women that I negotiated their pay. Cause they were paid models through the school.

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Did you get a cut on top of the A's or was just.

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No, no, no. There was no financial kickback for me. However, my GPA rose to the occasion. So shout out to graphic design majors. Cause we've been through it. Art.

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I was a madam once too.

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You were?

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I was kind of. You know, I was a bartender at a strip club.

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Yeah, but how did you go from bartending to madaming?

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Well, okay, so the rules in the strip club were that the girls couldn't leave. Damn, that sounds a little captivating. Well, not like, not captivating, but like they couldn't leave and return. Like, it was like, you know, like sometimes in clubs, you can't leave and come back because they're afraid that people are gonna go to their car and get paraphernalia, weapons or whatever, so they can't leave and reenter. The girls weren't allowed to leave and re enter because they were working. You can't just leave your job, go do some stuff and then come back. Especially when you're a stripper.

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I mean, you can't take a lunch break and run some errands.

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Well, they only work like four hours.

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I know. Everybody should be entitled to a little smoke breaker.

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Four hours is the minimum. And after four hours, you get a 15 minute break. And then eight hours, you get half.

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And they have to work that straight. Just dancing.

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No, they don't straight dance. They sit on the side while they take turns dancing.

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But that's considered still working. Like when they're just sitting around. Yes, that's sitting on the job. I hope they.

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It's not. Well, they were doing private dances and things then going around. But anyways. Damn it. So anyways, the girls weren't allowed to leave also because Portland is very sex industry happy. And I'll say that across the board, strip clubs and other. Right, so. And we'll we talk about some of this in another episode. But the fact that some of the girls did had a side hustle. A side hustle that involved them not putting their clothes on when they left the building. So they weren't allowed to leave. If you shot me a little extra money in my tip jar, you absolutely could leave and come back as long as you weren't on the stage at the time. So girls would leave and they would do their side hustles and they would come back and they would toss a little extra money in my tip jar.

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I'm just imagining them leaving with no clothes on and their crotch catching a cold.

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I mean, there was a short walk to the car and a short walk back and into the bathroom to walk up. You know what I'm saying?

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Okay. Yeah. So, you know, we had a little.

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That was meeting kids.

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Bitch. They were dropping kids off at the pool.

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Dropping kids off.

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Well, did we actually answer the question?

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Still no. But apparently there's a very big difference between Freaks, Friends, and forevers. And you can be all three. None of the above.

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And I still think that's the perspective from a man. I think that they have the categories. But I still say that most women can't speak for all are looking for their forever to be all three.

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Which is definitely an issue then, because how do we find a happy medium?

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Okay. So let me go back to my last video here, which is longer. So I'm going to. To cut it a little short. A little.

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A little short. So that.

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Hello, Governor.

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Because we will have an idea of what she's talking about. Okay, okay. She's a little paused.

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Okay. Somebody asked on Instagram, if you're seeing someone and you both like each other but are still in the talking stages, is it or is it not wrong to have sex with somebody else?

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It's not wrong. But is this a woman asking or a man asking? No, it's not wrong.

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Sorry, ladies.

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We have a double standard.

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I think that women should do their.

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Best to be abstinent and not have sex while getting to know new people.

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So do you believe men should be abstinent as well? I expect a man to be a man. Wait, no. I do not expect a man to be abstinent. Why not? Why do, why do women have to be absent and why do women have to hold up godly morals and men can't.

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It's a double standard. Her facial expressions piss me off.

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It does. And it's giving me.

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But it's the truth.

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I don't appreciate how nausea. I'm just saying. I'm telling you, high value masculine man wants a woman.

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Wants a woman that's getting turned out by three other men currently.

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Okay, so here's where I get irritated about that too. Aside from just her delivery. Again, her delivery is trash. And the fact, the way that she said it was very much like it is what it is, but it's very much like we're excusing bad behavior. So here's the thing that I've heard before. It was like it can be in a person. I'll say person because anybody could do this. It could be in a person's nature to not be monogamous. But it is within your power to have self control.

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And if you do not have self control, then you are not in control of your body or whatever. Whatever. So. But you could want to have multiple partners and you could choose to not. It's a choice. So saying that a man is going to be a man, you're excusing a man not having willpower, not having self control and saying I'm settling for this bad behavior because I can't get shit else now because she's an attractive woman and she's got a platform, she can say whatever she wants and people are going to be like, oh, I got to listen to her. Because obviously she gets men and she's got it together, but she's getting men that are not monogamous. Is that what you really fucking want?

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She said it's not a matter of what she wants. She says it is what it is and that's what she expects.

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But again, it's what she wants because that's not what the fuck I want. It's not what I accept.

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According to her.

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Right. I hear that this is.

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Just because you don't accept it doesn't change that it's not what it is.

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It's what she's saying that's True. And you again, we've talked about what you're willing to accept, what you're not willing to accept, and what you do with that information. Right. So if that's what it is, I can choose not to deal with that. And that's on me. Now, for her, she's saying that's what it is. So she's given the insinuation that that's what it is. So therefore that's what I accept as a woman because I'm expecting a man to do what he does. She did say I expect a man to be a man. Which means that she, in her dating preferences expects whoever she's talking to to not be monogamous. Now, granted, she did say during the talking stage.

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Yeah. So she said, here's a piece that I had an issue with that. So during the talking stage, there's no level of commitment, period. And they often. I've also heard that when you're dating, date, don't put all your eggs in one basket. That doesn't necessarily mean that you have to sleep with every person you're dating.

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And I just wanted to be clear about that. That it doesn't mean that, you know, because we have been on a date, that there is the expectation that we're gonna sleep together. But I do not agree with completely limiting yourself. If I haven't made a commitment because we're talking. This is the talking stage. According to her. If there's no commitments being made, I don't want have to share with you that I'm dealing with anybody else. It's my prerogative. I don't expect you to share what you're doing either. I'd rather not know at that point, to be quite honest. And if it is a matter of men are going to be mentioned.

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Which is kind of unfair to also insinuate that all men are just sleeping around all day.

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Like every day. Right. I just, I just, I don't agree with her.

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She was kind of similar to the other guy. It was very one sided, like, ooh.

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Could you imagine them in a relationship?

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Actually, they probably would probably really fit. She'd be like, whatever you want to do.

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Whatever you want. Hop on one foot. But I think the other part that bothered me. So you're right. One talking stage. Honestly, anybody can do what they want to do. As long as you're being safe and protecting yourself and not bringing nothing to me, I'm good. Until we decide that we're exclusive and we're dating. Once that statement has been made. And it's got to be a statement because we can't assume. But once it's been made, then we're exclusive and you better not be fucking around.

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Okay with that being said though, there's also this saying that you're single until you're married.

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No, I don't agree with that one at all.

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No. Okay. My point. Reason why is because there's talking and there's dating, which is you're not exclusive if you've decided to be exclusive because you are leading into. If I think for people, if they decide to be exclusive and they make a choice whether it's going to be just a long term commitment or if it's leading towards marriage. Right. But either way, you've made a commitment in some form, verbally, whatever that you are, I'm only sleeping with you. So if you've made a verbal commitment or to each other that we're exclusive, I don't care if we're not married. We've committed to each other. And if we get engaged, same thing. And if we get married, same thing. Now if we stay in that talking stage or we're just like, we're, we're, we're a situationship.

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I hate that.

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You know, it is, but it is what it is. Like, you know, it's complicated, you know, gray areas. But if you make a verbal statement that we are exclusive, we are no longer single. And I don't care if it's till you're married. Because at this point in this stage of the game and in this society, committed relationships are treated like marriages. And I would not want to be with somebody who I've said that I've. We've committed to each other and we're not married to be like, oh, we ain't married. So I'm still fucking off. Like, that's, that's fucked up. You know what I'm saying? Like we done told each other we committed and we exclusive. So there's that. The other point that I wanted to make though about what she said was any high value man doesn't want a woman who's been passed around by three or four guys. But what she was saying was that the man could. So we're saying, what's a high value man? Why does a high value man get to fuck around? And then why does he get to expect that he gets to do whatever he wants to do and tarnish these other women? Because now we're not talking, he's tarnishing women and making them less value but then when he wants to settle down, he wants to get the one that's virtuous and a virgin.

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So while her reply to that was very matter of fact and very dismissive, I don't disagree with the statement she made that it's simply a double standard. And it kind of has always been that way, you know, like men get patted on the back for how many women they've been with while women are judged.

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So. And it's always been that way. It doesn't make it right. But that's the double standard and that's what she was trying to say. But she was just kind of shitty as how she said it. Like, girl, be. Be nicer. You, you're annoying.

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You are. I think it'd be them pretty bitches.

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So. Yeah, so that was that.

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So, okay, I do have a question. Okay. Like, what do you deem a high value man or in a high value woman? Like, what do you deem that?

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Because so for me, high value in both, honestly comes down to character. And I know that some people, I guess, will consider high value a little bit more materialistic, you know, meaning that they're bosses, right? They're running this is. And that they have huge swollen bank accounts. Like a lot of people consider that to be the high value person. But I'm. My high value is more or less like where you are intellectually and how you treat me. Okay, so a high value man, unfortunately for me, he doesn't have to be a millionaire, he doesn't have to be filthy rich. He just has to not be an asshole and also not be broke. But because I'd like to go places, I would like to have help with my rent.

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Okay. But we say okay, so it comes.

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Down to and to feed my cats.

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Oh my God. So high value man or people. We say high value person is character. Right. But then you attribute. We start talking about men. So specifically men tend to be more materialistic as far as what society considers high value. And we say that you prefer characteristics and things. But what makes a high value woman then? If society says monetary reasons are what makes a high value man. Man, what makes a high value woman?

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I think if I had to guess what they would consider a high value woman is prim, proper, has it together, but is still alluring. So, you know, not cookie cutter square and boring. Like they still have, you know, something about them that's fun and attractive, but can hold their own.

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Can stand on their own without a man, but need, but would like a man type of thing. I Think if I had to guess, I think that's what they would consider.

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That's fair. I just, I was curious because I'm like, she mentioned high value man. So I'm like, what are we?

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Well, what's your version of a high value man?

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Okay, I think I'm with you on the character thing. I think it's. For me, it's a protector provider and. Yeah, protector and a provider. And I don't mean provider, just solely monetarily again, but like a provider of a safe space, a provider of the home, a provider of fathering, you know, those kinds of things. Like you, you're able to provide the things that we need to feed, function as a healthy couple and a healthy family.

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And a protector. I want to feel safe with you in all aspects, like spiritually, mentally, and physically and emotionally. Right. So for me, protector and provider with all the good characteristics in between, you know, got to be nice, you got to be funny. Gotta like to quote movies and shit like that, but that's my preference.

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What? Okay, could that high value man be all those things to you, but shitty to somebody else? Like, what if he's treating you this way? What if he simply looks at you and he's like, I would give you the world. I'll absolutely make sure that I'm keeping a job that keeps us in our home and in our lifestyle. But then he could, you know, basically rob from the poor. Or I kick a puppy in the forehead. Oh, God, the puppy. No. Oh.

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I. Very much. I think you've mentioned this before and this, this stuck with me. Like, watching how they treat other people is attractive to me. So, like, like you said before, like, I watch how men treat service, service staff at a, at a restaurant, right? I went on a date with somebody one time, and the guy that I was with, he consistently everywhere. Every restaurant he went to, asked them, hey, what do you recommend? And make nice conversations. The staff felt important. It was really, it was important to me that he valued everybody, that he came across with a high regard. And it was like, it was nice and it was attractive. It made him even more attractive to me. And so for me, I'm looking at how you treat people, especially because I'm in an industry. Like my day job is where I service people and I support people. And sometimes I'm not at their best. And so I have a kind nature in general, expect that the person I'm with is also going to be kind because how you treat people just how you are. Because if you ever get To a point to where I piss you off or I do something that's not in alignment with how you feel I should be. Are you gonna treat me that same way? Are you gonna look at me differently? Are you gonna get to a point to where I'm now an outsider to you and now you don't have to be nice to me. I just think that's an internal. That's who you are.

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You know what else is important to me? When I think about who I'm going to date and just sort of their character, it is important to me that I know what their relationship looks like specifically with their mother. Because that's a good point. It's like you can tell if either one. If they're completely disconnected from their mother, as in maybe they don't respect her, meaning they may not respect women. Or B, that if their mother is in a place where they need help and they're unwilling to be helpful. So where's your compassion?

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Or I know who you're talking about with that one too. Go ahead.

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Or if they are completely still nursing from their mother and need their mom still for everything at their grown age, I'm like, okay, so are you not able to stand on your own?

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Is she going to be part of our relationship? So I look specifically about how they interact with their mom more so than their father, because I mirror that and how they may treat me then, being a woman.

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That's a good point. Yeah. There's got to be a healthy balance because you can't be a mama's boy and you can't be. Be a disrespectful. So. Right, all the.

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Yeah, I've met all of those.

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Yeah. That's funny when you said that, I remember the. The one person whose mom wanted dinner and he was like, f you, mom. Basically like, get your own dinner, you 85 year old hag.

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Damn it. I don't remember dating that person. Wait, who did I date that did that?

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Heinz 57.

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Y'. All. Okay, so that's another good topic. Okay, since we done did the videos, right, we just had some real conversations. Let's talk about the nicknames that we give the men that we date.

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They're gonna know now.

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They're gonna know. Well, you know, Heinz87 will never know. Cause he probably couldn't figure out how to use the goddamn app.

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He got an account just so he could follow me.

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He did. Hey, Heinz.

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So just so you guys know, we absolutely changed the names of guys that we date to protect the innocent. Because some of them still listen to.

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Our shows, but not even just for the show. We do it in our phones. We do it in our phone.

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Everybody who. That's like, this one last guy that I was dating, my family did not know his real name because I only used his fake name.

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And I almost called. So I can't say too much because he probably does follow the show. Still, I use his fake name so much because we actually gave this picture person a real name for a fake name.

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First, middle, and last name.

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Did we? No, I think we said the first name. It came from the first name. There was a process on how we get these fake names. Like, well, here a person's name, it'll be either based on their name or characteristics or traits about this person, and then it dwindles into something. Example. I'll use an example that's safe. So a guy I talked to, we called my son Chris Brown. Reason why is because every time we were on the phone, my kid would come in and he'd be like. We'd be like, oh, this little cock block. And then we're like, CB Oh, Chris Brown.

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There we go.

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And that's how we dwindle tone names. So that's how we get to these names. So anywho, this person was a similar process. Like, it had a name, it sounded like something. It turned into another name, and then it turned into a whole thing. So. But the name ended up being a real. Like an actual name that somebody could have. And so we used it so much, I forgot that that wasn't his name. And there were times that I may have interacted with this. I had to stop myself because I almost called him the name.

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And then we did become friends on social media. I could say that. Okay, kind of. I guess maybe not.

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I didn't know it was him.

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I didn't know it was him. And because he wasn't known by that name, I just didn't know it was him. And so one day there was a post, and I was like, oh, shit, that's the guy. But that's not his. I was like, oh, because that's his real name. Real name.

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Yeah. No, it's funny because, like I said, I had only used the fake name around my family, and I was strategic in that, too, because I knew that if and when this relationship should not work out.

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I didn't want them being like, hey, yo, whatever happened to so and so by the first name? And I was just like, you know what? No, we're just Gonna leave that alone.

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You've heard. And our listeners and viewers have heard some of the names, like, we talked about Trap House. She made her whole rap about it, you know, and it was pretty evident why we called him Trap House. Trap House. But, you know, like, I'm curious to know, like, are there any.

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What did I call the friend? Did he.

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That was Hines.

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No. Hines is the one that I've met recently at my. Yeah. Because he was the same age as that. The friend of Trap House.

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Trap House friend.

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Trap House friend. Just like we were Portland and Portland friends.

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Oh, no. We were both Portland. Oh. But to each other. We were Portland's friends. Oh, God. Yeah.

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I don't think that one had a nickname.

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Oh, that's so fun. I really thought that that was Heinz.

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No, Heinz has been within the last few months. And that was, like, almost two years ago.

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Was it two years ago?

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Almost. Think about when we did the photo shoot in the tunnel. That was 2023.

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We did do a photo shoot in a tunnel. A haunted tunnel.

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I bet it was cool, though. It was daytime.

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We still use those photos. What other crazy nicknames have you given somebody that you can share without getting in trouble?

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Too many of my friends still listen.

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Okay.

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And I feel that.

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Yeah, I feel that if you want to know what nicknames we gave people, y' all can just ask us personally, because I'll tell you. I was like. I would tell my ex.

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Wait, let's read it. Let's. Let's read each other what our names are in the phone.

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Oh, yeah. Okay.

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Because it's. Because it's so long.

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This is. Do we got to explain how we got to these names?

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Yeah, let's do it.

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Okay. So my name for Nick B in the phone. Oh, my God, y'. All.

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What is it? Can I even get the whole thing?

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I can't even look at the whole name because it's so. Let me see. I'm gonna turn it this. Okay, Here we go.

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Yeah, I had to do the same thing.

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Oh, it's still too.

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There we go. I can do it this way.

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Okay, you go. Yeah, my.

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Okay. So I call Lee in my phone. Her name is Lee laree. Barbecue Baby. LBPFL Moneymaker Mama Oliver, aka Danny.

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Okay. Nick B's name in my phone is Nicole. Double D. Nick B2 Lees Tool. LBP4L. Burlfriend, Cupcake Sugar Mama Bane. The Annie arnie twin therapist, aka Dr. Dolittle.

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So stupid.

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And when she calls or texts me, and I have my Earpiece in Siri absolutely reads the entire name. By the time that Siri gets done reading this name, Nicole has hung up at this point. Story behind some of this stuff. Double D, Nick B. We have this hilarious thing that Nicole Nick B. Used to do that it was. I don't know why, but it was like she was double fisting drinks and she was dancing, but it looked like she was double fisting dicks. And so she would do this dance where she's like double fisted. We called it the double D. Nick B. That was the dance. The two Lees actually almost ended up being the name of the show.

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Right.

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Because your middle name.

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My middle name is Lee and her.

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First name is Lee and it's spelled exactly the same. So we were like, okay. The tulle is because we did a wedding one time and we were decorating and we had tulle. And this also became a tool Lee's because we couldn't pronounce tool and we called it Tuli. So this is how we can't spell or say words correctly. She. So yeah, so there's that LBP4L. You heard that first season where we talked about where someone thought we were life partners because we talked about being partners. So we're life business partners. Lbp. She's my girlfriend. I'm her boyfriend.

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We go together.

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We go together. Cupcake sugar mama. Her side hustle is cupcakes selling cupcakes. She's my sugar mama because I think she sent me a cash app one time and I just called, called her my sugar mama. For some reason, for some reason people have attributed two light skinned girls as being twins. Regardless of the fact that we look totally different. She's about 10ft taller than me.

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I am.

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And we don't look the same, but so we talk about that movie Twins with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny. And so part of her name is Arnie and she's Danny. Danny and twins. And she's my therapist because we obviously to talk to each other.

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We often are.

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And she's a cat lady. So she is also Dr. Dolittle. Yes, that's how she got that long ass name.

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Long ass name.

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And I still add to it to this day.

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Yeah, occasionally I'll throw a new nickname in there for her too. And of course she's the barbecue baby because she throwing down with some. With some chickens.

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Listen, I cook all that I cooks. Fellas. Oh, sorry. I was soliciting myself. Again, single.

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No, listen, so between the two of us, if you need like dinner and dessert, we Got you. We got you. Oh, I'm thinking of starting a business called Breakfast and Buttercream.

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I hope you don't say it like that.

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Breakfast and buttercream, baby.

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With pancakes and.

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Yes. So I'll be making some breakfasts, but I can also make you some pancakes and syrup.

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She wonders why she's single.

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I don't wonder, actually.

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She's doubled her, and she's like, I know why I'm single.

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I know. And I'm comfortable with it. I've been kicking it by myself, cracking.

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Myself up, picking up things I cannot. Yeah, that's good.

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So what are some nicknames that you've given any guys that you can share if you're able to? Because I know I wasn't.

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There was Stripper Bay Trap House. Oh, this is gonna make me sound like a whole fucking whole. It's okay. At this point, y' all have known. I'm just. Whatever. Sugar Bay Trap House. There was. There's Therapist bae. He also has another nickname, but I can't say that on. Because he listens. There's. There's be more.

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Who doesn't listen.

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Doesn't listen.

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FB Moore.

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FB Moore. There was big td. We'll leave that one alone. Y' all can imagine what those initial stand for. Who else was there? I can't say my ex's name because people listen. They'll go back and tell him. Although I think he knows because he's got to at this point, listen. No, I found out this. And this is how I found out about the nicknames. When you send a Gmail email and you pull from your contacts, it absolutely pulls their contact name and puts it into the email. So I was emailing. Oh, I was setting up a calendar invite for a bunch of my friends with you and our other friends that have really long nicknames. And I made a calendar invite, and one of my friends hit me up and was like, bitch, why do you have my whole fucking nickname in the calendar invite? And I was like, you can see that. And she was like, yes, everybody can see that. And I was like, oh. Which made me think about the time that my son's school teacher had emailed me and my ex. And I absolutely responded with his email, and it populated his nickname on my end, so I just figured I could see it. I didn't realize that his whole trash.

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Of a name is in there.

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His name was in there. And I'm sure she no longer wonders why we're exes at this point. And I'm sure that's probably led to why he continues to hate me to this day. Because his nickname is not nice, but it's very funny. But he earned it, though.

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How you gonna be mad at what you earned?

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And the very few times that he does have to communicate with me and I have my earpiece in and Siri says his name, yo, it makes the divorce so worth it. I tell you what, when Siri says that name, I'd be like, yes, bitch.

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I need to get married so that I can get a divorce and do that. I feel left out.

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So is this gonna be the season where you're trying to get married and divorced rather than getting dick pics? Because all of last season you were requesting dick pics. Have you gotten any yet?

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No, it didn't work. Yo, I've never felt so un dick pickable in my life. Because when I put a request out there and it's still crickets, nobody wants to send me pictures of their ding a lings and tallywackers. Like, that's. That's up.

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I have a basket I can send you. I can start sending you pictures of my. My basket of goodies. It's random. I'm gonna be sitting there, like, lean back. Like the remote. I'm gonna be like, hey, girl.

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I'm.

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Gonna have it next to the remote I'm having next to a banana.

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I'm starting to send you pictures of remote controls too. Be like, look at this.

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We did say that one time. Like, if the dick pic don't come with the controller, then we don't know what size it is. We don't know what size.

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You know, we need references.

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We do. We need references. It needs to be next to, like, a Comcast remote, something. A DirecTV remote.

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One of the bottles.

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That's gonna be the new request. Damn, you make it seem like I ain't got no walls. Yo, we about to end this show now. Cause it's going bad. Nick B. Yeah. Where can men send their dick pics?

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No, I don't want that this year.

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This year I don't want that. Where can men send you proposals and divorce paperwork?

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They can either track me down on any of our. Of any of our Dirty Roses websites, be that our platform of Instagram or Facebook or TikTok. You know, I. I read those messages there. Or if you just, you know, want to be kind of low key about it, because she can also see those messages and you just want to reach me specifically, you can hit me up on Instagram @nickbnickb. And Lila Re where can people send divorce papers to you if you would like some more?

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We ain't getting nothing because I ain't getting married ever again. I don't know. Maybe not. I don't know.

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She lied.

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I might lie a little bit, but. No, you can, you can, you can send me financial donations.

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Oh, cash apps.

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Cash apps. Yeah. No, but you can hit me up on all my social media platforms. It's Lila RE L E I G H L A r I e dirtyrosespodcast.com Dirty Roses podcast on all platforms and on YouTube and leave us a review.

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Oh, write us a letter.

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Right?

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